children were regarded as nephews and nieces. This extended to the grandparents. "Vapapa" was used for both the grandfather and the grandchild (girl/boy). Each child was given specific names dictated by their order of birth, regardless of gender.
"In the old days we educated the kids from when they were babies. When the mother and father grows them up, they're told all the time, day by day, what to do and how to do it, who's your relations because in the traditional way,

you've got to know exactly who they are and where they are so they can do things right when they come to the (initiation) ground. They have to know if they're north wind or south wind." (Lynch Ryan, Port Augusta, 1989 in Education Dept. SA, 1992; 76)