Inzpiration: lol
LQQK45: thank god, your here
LQQK45: check it out, its working
Inzpiration: ok, give me the addy again p-lease []
LQQK45: /C0110523/
Inzpiration: gracias
Inzpiration: very cool
LQQK45: ive gotta q
Inzpiration: yeah
LQQK45: ive got twenty, yes, 20 hours for the ride down to kentucky and back
Inzpiration: very very very cool
LQQK45: were driving
Inzpiration: yeah?
Inzpiration: kentucky
LQQK45: and im goin to barnes and noble tonight or tomorrow
Inzpiration: and.....
LQQK45: what should i get to write courses on and what will help us
LQQK45: im gonna get a book on mysql
Inzpiration: well, what other courses do we need?
LQQK45: lets see
Inzpiration: that's a complicated language
LQQK45: weve got hardware/computers...not much more is needed
Inzpiration: I've checked it out - I'd check to see if TQ supports that stuff on their server
LQQK45: they do
Inzpiration: ok - u might want CGI instead
Inzpiration: CGI is more common
LQQK45: we have 3 languages so far
LQQK45: is their an easier one that will be of more use?
Inzpiration: cgi would probably be a better choice than SQL
Inzpiration: it's just used more
Inzpiration: but i don't know how it works, other than that you need a special server for it
LQQK45: any other languages we should use for courses? we have html dhtml and java/javascript
Inzpiration: ummm
Inzpiration: i don't think so
LQQK45: what else is easy and useful?
Inzpiration: did you get my flash course?
LQQK45: i could do xml
LQQK45: yes
Inzpiration: XML is almost the same as DHTML
Inzpiration: I already checked it out
Inzpiration: it's practically the same
LQQK45: okay...what else
LQQK45: perl?
Inzpiration: AAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!1
LQQK45: ?
Inzpiration: i checked out a book on [pearl once
LQQK45: and?
Inzpiration: actually, CGI uses perl as the code
Inzpiration: (i think)
LQQK45: okay, C++?
Inzpiration: kind of how DHTML uses HTML
Inzpiration: not web applicable
LQQK45: k
Inzpiration: Java is like C + + for the web
LQQK45: we need more internet courses
Inzpiration: hacker tricks
Inzpiration: hacker tricks
LQQK45: we only have asics and history
LQQK45: thats one more
Inzpiration: did u ever finish the simple internet course?
LQQK45: nope, its in the making
Inzpiration: ok, glossary?
LQQK45: same
LQQK45: in the making
Inzpiration: hmmm
Inzpiration: i think we covered everything
LQQK45: what else can be an internet course?
Inzpiration: I'd really like to get the hot line up
LQQK45: thats only gonna work after sep 5th when people can get onto the site
Inzpiration: I'm downloading a Java IM, that works in ppl's browsers so they don't have to download anything
Inzpiration: yeah - book reviews
Inzpiration: we could do web site reviews too
Inzpiration: PUblic Domain
LQQK45: but what will work for internet courses?
Inzpiration: yixe, almost forgot about that one
Inzpiration: PUblic domain
Inzpiration: yuck
LQQK45: what about it?
Inzpiration: that could be a course
LQQK45: k
LQQK45: copyright stuff
LQQK45: legal?
Inzpiration: FP, dream weaver
Inzpiration: yeah, all that crud
Inzpiration: what a pain
LQQK45: ill do those two
Inzpiration: ok
Inzpiration: and do u think you can do the assesment test in dreamweaver?
LQQK45: that might be a problem
Inzpiration: y?
Inzpiration: j/curious
LQQK45: i can't figure out how to make one big test instead of 50 little questions that are sperate
LQQK45: what we could do is this:
LQQK45: have a form where the user enters in answers to multichoice questions
Inzpiration: ok
LQQK45: we recieve them, and if they have a highscore we have a place where we can put there name
LQQK45: is the javascript doable?
Inzpiration: nope, we'd have to have CGI
LQQK45: you cant make a form with jvs?
Inzpiration: i could do up a test using JS, but it would use post to CGI
Inzpiration: yep
LQQK45: so cant u have the contents of the form mailed to us?
Inzpiration: no, they can only go into a "post" action
Inzpiration: which stores in a cgi bin
LQQK45: whatever
Inzpiration: i know, it's stupid
Inzpiration: i hate it
Inzpiration: i've been tryiung to fix it for years
Inzpiration: i've worked days ontrying to figure it out, and gone nights without sleeping
Inzpiration: lol, well, let's just say it bugs me
LQQK45: what we need to add is a way to have users be able to add to the site
LQQK45: beside discussion boards
Inzpiration: eeek
LQQK45: we need a way for them to submit reviews or even courses
Inzpiration: well
LQQK45: i guess mysql would be able to do that?
Inzpiration: there is a way, to make it look like a from
Inzpiration: we can make a message board lok like a form
Inzpiration: and they would think that it was sending o us
Inzpiration: when it would really be posting like a message board, but we'd have the addy to the message board
Inzpiration: we could even password protect it
Inzpiration: no one would no the difference
LQQK45: thats good
LQQK45: can u do that with jv ?
Inzpiration: the form, yes, but the message board uses cgi, which the codes are on TQ
Inzpiration: I can put a password on it with JS
Inzpiration: I can try to work something up
LQQK45: so could i make you two pages, one for the test and one for the submitted results...and youll do it
LQQK45: cuz ive got no clue
LQQK45: you can do it from fp or whatever u want
Inzpiration: lol, ok, but u'll have to upload it
LQQK45: im gonna make you two pages now
Inzpiration: ok, and i'll work with that
LQQK45: and you should be able to edit the pages, correct?
Inzpiration: right
LQQK45: k, im uploading the test page
Inzpiration: k
Inzpiration: If i were to give you a "contact us" page
Inzpiration: would u upload it?
LQQK45: ill make one
LQQK45: dont worry about it
LQQK45: okay, go onto our site
Inzpiration: ok, i've got some java stuff that might need to go on it
Inzpiration: going now
LQQK45: it gives a contact us link at the bottom of every page also
LQQK45: click connect
LQQK45: and then webmaster test
LQQK45: thats where the test will go
Inzpiration: IT'S ALIVE!!!!
LQQK45: what is?
Inzpiration: it works!
LQQK45: i know
Inzpiration: it's perfect!
LQQK45: most of it does at least
LQQK45: a lot of pages arent there but a good bit are
Inzpiration: R u translating into russian BTW
LQQK45: doesn't this look 100% more professional then last time?
LQQK45: why not?
Inzpiration: ooh yes
Inzpiration: u speak russian? cool
LQQK45: no, i dont
LQQK45: but translator work well
Inzpiration: r u also translating into chinese?
LQQK45: yes
LQQK45: with a translator
Inzpiration: i no speak englash
Inzpiration: ok
LQQK45: lol
Inzpiration: []
Inzpiration: what about languages w/ different alphabets?
LQQK45: the entire site will be put on one page
LQQK45: you may not be able to read it, (it will show up as those weird boxes) but people with those fonts can
Inzpiration: ok, koo1
LQQK45: thats 15 languages total
Inzpiration: wOw, if we actually get that done
Inzpiration: it will be amazing
LQQK45: it will take me an hour max
Inzpiration: suuuuuuure
Inzpiration: http://htmlgear.lycos.com/
LQQK45: you dont believe me?
Inzpiration: well, i dunno
LQQK45: im putting the entire site onto one page
Inzpiration: not bad
Inzpiration: but an hour?
LQQK45: and then translating that one page witht he translator
LQQK45: 15 times
Inzpiration: it should be interesting
LQQK45: all im gonna have to do is wait for the translator to go
LQQK45: and i have dsl
Inzpiration: what about the images, with text
LQQK45: no images
Inzpiration: []
LQQK45: sorry mr. chinese dudes
LQQK45: no pics for u
Inzpiration: You oculd do some static image w/o text
Inzpiration: hehehehe
LQQK45: cmon maegan, one single page with over a mb of stuff
Inzpiration: i think i'm going to cry
Inzpiration: ~blows nose~
LQQK45: i think we should spend the last week proofreading
Inzpiration: here comes my mom!
LQQK45: im gonna print out a couple of our entire sites
Inzpiration: y?
LQQK45: which will come out to over a 100 pages a piece
LQQK45: so we can proofread it
LQQK45: and edit it
LQQK45: we already have 3 courses that are over 10 pages
LQQK45: and my fp and dreamweaver will equal the others
LQQK45: thats 5
LQQK45: plus we have at least 50 more pages of stuff, considering we have a glossary with 26 letters
Inzpiration: not to mention flash
Inzpiration: DHTML
Inzpiration: Graphics
LQQK45: theyre all huge
Inzpiration: yep, I think we're at 10 courses currently
Inzpiration: omgosh
Inzpiration: I found a form thingy
Inzpiration: it's perfect!
Inzpiration: http://htmlgear.lycos.com/admin/rotation.html
LQQK45: ten courses of your or everyone
LQQK45: ill count
Inzpiration: k
LQQK45: we have a bout 10 full courses
LQQK45: with another 2 or 3 coming up
LQQK45: and lemme count the mini courses
LQQK45: which is anything that takes up a bout 1 page
Inzpiration: wowowowowowow
LQQK45: which are all the reviews, all of chriss hardware, and the 26 letters for the glossary
Inzpiration: burning rubber, and we still have a month
Inzpiration: sheesh, just a month!
LQQK45: 35+the glossary
Inzpiration: ohman
LQQK45: the 35 are how many more we are going to do
Inzpiration: ok
LQQK45: but i can do those fairly quicly
LQQK45: give me a week just to work on the glossary and reviews and ill have em covered
Inzpiration: i think right now, the most important thing is FP and/or dreamweaver courses
LQQK45: which still gives me 3 more weeks
Inzpiration: b/c if alll else fails, i can help out with glossary
Inzpiration: but there is no way i can do FP or DW
LQQK45: i feel so confident right now
Inzpiration: uh oh
LQQK45: i can do them both easily
Inzpiration: well, how bout we try to get those done first
LQQK45: maegan...we could easily get an honorable mention with what we have already
Inzpiration: ~*phony grin*~
Inzpiration: joooooordan, you've been saying you'd do FP since day 1
Inzpiration: please, just do FP
Inzpiration: It would make my day!
LQQK45: i think we need a couple more major courses, and then we can work on reviews
LQQK45: okay, will do
Inzpiration: yeah, major courses! like FP!
LQQK45: ive got that and dreamweaver
Inzpiration: ok
LQQK45: and what else can you do?
Inzpiration: Book reviews
Inzpiration: Hot Line
LQQK45: you could do advanced html or advanced javascript or both
Inzpiration: Hacker Tricks
Inzpiration: Pasteing Composer stuff on one page
Inzpiration: done that
LQQK45: ok, can u make hacker tricks big?
Inzpiration: i'll try
Inzpiration: how doe 10 pages sound?
LQQK45: you could even make a sevcurity one if u can do that?
Inzpiration: er, maybe 5
Inzpiration: security? hmm, that's a chris thins
LQQK45: k
Inzpiration: *thing
LQQK45: so, your gonna do hacker tricks
LQQK45: we need more for you
Inzpiration: yep
Inzpiration: I'm going to get up a JavaMap
Inzpiration: some Flash stuff
LQQK45: ive got two, and whatever i learn from 10 days of reading
LQQK45: let work on content for now
LQQK45: what big courses
Inzpiration: km learn how to do CGI, and you'll will be my best friend ever!
Inzpiration: (i know no one who can do CGI)
LQQK45: what other courses can u do?
Inzpiration: Public Domain
Inzpiration: here's an idea
Inzpiration: copying our best courses to teacher format
LQQK45: k, u could even go into legal and moral issues for that
Inzpiration: so it would be easy for them to print
LQQK45: or submitting our entire site in printed form to a publisher
Inzpiration: I'm reading this book called the hacker ethic
LQQK45: and see if theyll makeabook out of it
Inzpiration: right
Inzpiration: it's really interesting, and it has a whole section on public domain
LQQK45: good, write a course about computer ethics
LQQK45: that sounds nice
LQQK45: just the words
Inzpiration: nice?
Inzpiration: computer ethic
Inzpiration: nethic
LQQK45: it has a ring to it
LQQK45: oooh, im gonna put up a TQ convo page too.
Inzpiration: and how are we going to publisize it?
LQQK45: Whgere people can see all the convos we've had over the summer
Inzpiration: cool
LQQK45: word of mouth works great
LQQK45: tell your friends, tell your parents who will tell your friends...tell teachers
LQQK45: anyone and everyone
Inzpiration: ah ha!
Inzpiration: we could do up posters
LQQK45: older people should love this
LQQK45: computer/internet basics
Inzpiration: and stick them around local schools
Inzpiration: or nursing homes
Inzpiration: or community colleges
Inzpiration: I could do it in Microsoft Word, so you could print them out
LQQK45: so ive got Dreamweaver/Frontpage/Internet Basics/ And whatever I learn from 10 days of reading
Inzpiration: right
LQQK45: so that 3+
Inzpiration: and uploading the whole shabang
LQQK45: you have 2
LQQK45: that should be good
Inzpiration: ok
Inzpiration: oh yeah
Inzpiration: also, it would be good
Inzpiration: to do some interviews
Inzpiration: between the three of us
Inzpiration: for the "about us" section
LQQK45: im gonna send youi a brainstormed list of reviews we can do
Inzpiration: TQ ppl love that
Inzpiration: ok, sounds good
Inzpiration: ne idea how i can reach chris?
LQQK45: I tried to choose one website on every topic i could think of
LQQK45: everything from hershey to modells
Inzpiration: great idea - i have a few fav sites myself that i might add
Inzpiration: lol
LQQK45: make sure we review our own site and TQs site too
Inzpiration: have you seen the internet yellow pages?
LQQK45: u know what i mean
Inzpiration: right
Inzpiration: TQ's site looks cheesy
Inzpiration: the content is high, but they sacrificed looks b/c of it
Inzpiration: they could learn something from our courses
LQQK45: no, u dont say negative stuff in reviews unless it torture
Inzpiration: hehehehe
LQQK45: TQ doesnt have a bad website
LQQK45: its simple
Inzpiration: I love the twinky torture site
LQQK45: thats all they need
LQQK45: theyre not trying to impress anyone
LQQK45: we are!
Inzpiration: I was thinking
Inzpiration: I've been looking at other modern loking sites
Inzpiration: a lot of them have simple icons, or images to sort of add color
Inzpiration: it wouldn't hurt....
Inzpiration: to have some other images around
LQQK45: reviews sent
LQQK45: k, well add some stuf flater on
LQQK45: whats todays date?
LQQK45: nvm
LQQK45: I've gotta go
Inzpiration: k
Inzpiration: when r u leaving 4 camp again?
LQQK45: I'm gonna put this convo and all later convos up on the net
Inzpiration: k
LQQK45: later, but im leaving on thursday for 10 days
LQQK45: cya!
Inzpiration: ok
Inzpiration: cya!
Inzpiration: hi
LQQK45: i think we can pull it off if we work extra hard this year
Inzpiration: what happened?
Inzpiration: maybe
LQQK45: dad checked his email
Inzpiration: lol
LQQK45: i think i have almost exactly a month
LQQK45: todays the 24th
Inzpiration: ur right
LQQK45: ill be gone on the 26th for 10 days
Inzpiration: in a couple mins. i'm gonna call it a night
Inzpiration: and i think i figured out the scripting!
Inzpiration: hot dog!
LQQK45: and then ill be home for 3 weeks or so, and then another couple days before the due date
Inzpiration: ok, so, let's make sure we understand what we need toi get done
LQQK45: ive got three major courses
LQQK45: and then any more that i can do for coding
Inzpiration: book reviews, hot line, hacker tricks, pasting composer, public domain, test, poster/promotion
LQQK45: i need to do glossary
Inzpiration: java/flash stuff
Inzpiration: FP, dreamweaver
Inzpiration: FP jordan []
LQQK45: and you need computer ethics
Inzpiration: oooh, yeah
LQQK45: thats an important topic
Inzpiration: yes
LQQK45: what about all those reviews?
Inzpiration: ok, and controversial at that
Inzpiration: reviews, i have about 4 books, including a series, that i can review
LQQK45: i can probably do all those in a day or two, so ill do the list i ave you
Inzpiration: and if u could send me those web addys b4 u leave again, that would be great
Inzpiration: ok!
Inzpiration: good deal
Inzpiration: we're going to be ok
Inzpiration: ne idea how i can contact chris?
LQQK45: i'll do translation at the end before i leave for camp #2
LQQK45: and then proofreading and adding anything extra those last couple days
Inzpiration: yeah, and i'll have mom start proof reading on this end
Inzpiration: <yaaaawn>
LQQK45: well also spend a day going over every single page and link and making sure everything is connected
Inzpiration: holy cow
LQQK45: i tihkn its a mom thing
Inzpiration: yep
Inzpiration: defiantly
LQQK45: theyre all good at proofreading
Inzpiration: ok, ur mom can proofread ur stuff, and my mom can proofread mine
Inzpiration: that way no one gets ne headaches!
LQQK45: i think we should proofread the whole site
LQQK45: us three
Inzpiration: i agree
LQQK45: our parents can read over whatever they want
LQQK45: stuff theyll understand
LQQK45: like the basics courses
Inzpiration: and see if they do
LQQK45: tell us what they dont get
Inzpiration: Well, i'm going to go
LQQK45: do what jen was supposed to do
Inzpiration: I am tired
Inzpiration: parents are good at that
LQQK45: k, cya
Inzpiration: thanx, bye
