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LQQK45: hello!
Inzpiration: hola
Inzpiration: yo
Inzpiration: checkin the site
LQQK45: i need a bunch of stuff from u, ive almost got the
whole site done
Inzpiration: glossary is corrupted..
LQQK45: its not reuploaded
Inzpiration: hot dog!
Inzpiration: ok
Inzpiration: hold on, brb
LQQK45: chris is doing the 300 word glossary right now
LQQK45: doint leave me
LQQK45: bohhoo
Inzpiration: lol
Inzpiration: r u doing other languages?
Inzpiration: ;-)
LQQK45: yes, but i need to ask u for some dtuff that u need
to send me
Inzpiration: ook
LQQK45: i need chris's dos course if its somewhere on your
comp
LQQK45: your hacking course
Inzpiration: let me grab a notebook,,,,
LQQK45: and your corrected stuff
Inzpiration: ~digs to the bottom of a stack of papers~
LQQK45: i sent you the challenges section of the entry form
Inzpiration: that was goo...
Inzpiration: last sentence needed an "a"
Inzpiration: some of it was corrupted with weird characters
Inzpiration: ummm....
LQQK45: and what were gonna do is after we've completed rthe
entry form tonight, were gonna use what we
wrote about each person on the site intslef, and then
include stats for each person
Inzpiration: sounds koo1
Inzpiration: so give me a quick likst
LQQK45: chriss dos
LQQK45: your hacking course
LQQK45: the flash intro
LQQK45: and your corrwected stuff
Inzpiration: I did 13 flashes
Inzpiration: :-)
LQQK45: and by the way , i think we should leave the
homepage up saying as a major inside joke between
everyone on TQ
LQQK45: why??
Inzpiration: nononono
Inzpiration: for different sections
LQQK45: maegan, please dont tell me you waisted your time
doing intros
Inzpiration: "connect intro here" etc. etc.
LQQK45: heh?
Inzpiration: in the site, go to connect for instance
Inzpiration: i did an intro
LQQK45: and i need those book reviews
Inzpiration: k....
LQQK45: where are we gonna put it?
Inzpiration: where is says "connect intro here"
LQQK45: it doesnt say that anywhere
Inzpiration: click "connect"
LQQK45: did u edit something?
Inzpiration: nooo, that's what's up there
LQQK45: oh, i mean the opening words for it
LQQK45: which i already wrote
Inzpiration: grrrrr, my bro is yelling at me hold on
LQQK45: i need a list of what flashes u did...just send them
to me
Inzpiration: oook
Inzpiration: sorry, hold on
LQQK45: k
Inzpiration: back
Inzpiration: ok, will send flash list first
Inzpiration: i did it on the other comp
LQQK45: do u have all the stuff i listed?
Inzpiration: where is the hotline/hotwirez
Inzpiration: yep
LQQK45: its on myu comp
LQQK45: i haven't don ethe final uploading yet
Inzpiration: ok, we're still doing that right? i think it's
a big plus..
Inzpiration: k
Inzpiration: nm
LQQK45: i did it already
Inzpiration: and the cursor codes?
LQQK45: yeh
Inzpiration: and my web site link
LQQK45: how long will it take u to send me the stuff
Inzpiration: ummm, 1-1 1/2
Inzpiration: hr
Inzpiration: (s)
LQQK45: to send me the stuff????
Inzpiration: here, let me grab the list 4u, brb
Inzpiration: welllll\
Inzpiration: with my luck, i'll have to probably upload all
the flash crud to my server
Inzpiration: brb
LQQK45: then do that much later when i don't need to talk to
you
LQQK45: what we should do right now is the final entry, get
that over with
Inzpiration: oook
LQQK45: if you want, ill write it
Inzpiration: here
Inzpiration: the list...
Inzpiration: glossary - 29kb
Inzpiration: connect 12 kb
LQQK45: wait
Inzpiration: interviews - 29
LQQK45: oh
LQQK45: keep goin
Inzpiration: about us 188
Inzpiration: kb
Inzpiration: promotion 23 kb
Inzpiration: internet basics 176 kb
Inzpiration: hosting 47 kb
Inzpiration: suggested courses 76 kb
Inzpiration: design 19 kb
Inzpiration: citations 19 kb
Inzpiration: the weba intor weal thing with sounds and
picturess......
Inzpiration: 183kb
Inzpiration: not really THAT bad :-)
LQQK45: by the way, we only have one interview
Inzpiration: iknow
LQQK45: we need more
Inzpiration: lol
Inzpiration: we'll see
Inzpiration: I still have a ton of stuff to edit and send
and finalize
Inzpiration: btw, have you done the bibliography?
LQQK45: what on earth do u need to edit?
Inzpiration: ummmm, web architect 101 need about 55 links
inserted :-)
LQQK45: wait, u mean there's places for the links but no
links right now, or u just are gonna add them
Inzpiration: there's places for them, but they don't go
newhere, and i finally looked everything up
Inzpiration: not to mention javascript codes that need
editing
Inzpiration: 2 java applets that need testing
Inzpiration: u get the idea...
Inzpiration: let me see if i have chris' stuff
LQQK45: ok, ok, go ahead i guess...send me the stuff, but
that sounds very tedious and we dont have any time
to do tedious things
LQQK45: we have major structural things to do
Inzpiration: oh yeah, for the AOL webarchitect101 account
LQQK45: can u send me all the stuff tongiht?
Inzpiration: what is the password?
LQQK45: thinkquest i believe
Inzpiration: yeah i can if i get it done
Inzpiration: big if
Inzpiration: did u get my graphx?
LQQK45: if u get what done
LQQK45: yes
Inzpiration: the tedious work
LQQK45: forget that for now
LQQK45: well worry about it later
Inzpiration: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
Inzpiration: thank u
LQQK45: can u send me your hacking course right now
Inzpiration: no, it has some minor editing to be done
LQQK45: no iot doesnt
LQQK45: send it
Inzpiration: it's half done with editing
Inzpiration: nope
LQQK45: maegan, i need the stuff
Inzpiration: what kind of structural work?
LQQK45: i plato spend all of tomorrow editting
LQQK45: i can't not have the document that i need to have
put on the site
Inzpiration: well, i'll send it as soon as i finiXXXXX
Inzpiration: i didn't cuss
Inzpiration: as soon as i complete it
LQQK45: when will that be?
LQQK45: isn't it just spell checking?
Inzpiration: by 2night
Inzpiration: noo, grammar - logic - geek proofing
Inzpiration: capitalazation
Inzpiration: etc. etc.
LQQK45: ithoguht u said u finished all that?
Inzpiration: inserting links
Inzpiration: not on hacker
Inzpiration: on everything else
LQQK45: that should take 5 minutes
LQQK45: its 8 pages long or so
Inzpiration: xcept - everything else now needs my links
Inzpiration: o bother
LQQK45: will u be here tomorrow?
Inzpiration: yep, familyvacation is over
LQQK45: how much tommorow
Inzpiration: ALL DAY LOOOONG
Inzpiration: !
LQQK45: good
Inzpiration: yep
Inzpiration: and u?
LQQK45: can u sned me chriss dos now?
Inzpiration: let me check....
LQQK45: ill be here from the morning till 1, then from 3 on
LQQK45: but ive gotta finish almost all of this tonight
LQQK45: and we can
Inzpiration: omgosh
Inzpiration: finish 2night?
LQQK45: yes, i plan to finish everything but the languages
tonight
Inzpiration: wishful thinking
Inzpiration: i still have a java map to complete
LQQK45: we dont need a javamap'!!!!!!!
Inzpiration: oook, hold on
LQQK45: its useless!!!!
LQQK45: maegan, can u please just send me your stuff, even
if its only 1/2 eddited?
Inzpiration: i'm sorry to say
Inzpiration: that
Inzpiration: i don't have chris' DOS stuff
LQQK45: then can u send me your stufF?
Inzpiration: after i finish editing it
Inzpiration: want to do the form?
LQQK45: just sned it to me now
LQQK45: what form?
Inzpiration: can we do the form w/o Chris?
Inzpiration: entry form
LQQK45: maegan, u dont need to do edditing now, we plan to
spend all tomorrow all day doing edditing
LQQK45: its unecessary
Inzpiration: uh uh
Inzpiration: it is necessary
Inzpiration: we're wasting time
Inzpiration: do u want to do the form first?
LQQK45: if you can just send me everything tonight, then we
will be able to just check it tomorrow
Inzpiration: or want me to send flash?
Inzpiration: or want me to go edit?
Inzpiration: uh uh
LQQK45: form, and then youll send everything later tonight,
ok?
Inzpiration: I'll send u my other book reviews
Inzpiration: oook
LQQK45: and well edit tomorrow, all day
Inzpiration: sounds good
Inzpiration: i'm almost all edited, so i'll help u 2
Inzpiration: when do u start school?
LQQK45: as for the form, i emailed u one section of it
Inzpiration: yep, it was good...
LQQK45: ye3s, we are all gonna read over the whole site
Inzpiration: where is chris?
LQQK45: can we use it?
LQQK45: he's coming online in 10 minutes
LQQK45: i was just talking to him
Inzpiration: ummm, an "a" was missing in the last sentence
Inzpiration: good
LQQK45: ok
Inzpiration: and some of the characters were garbled
Inzpiration: and a couple word ran together
Inzpiration: *words
LQQK45: thats just the TQ form doing that
Inzpiration: jbsure
Inzpiration: split up the questions, we'll answer, send them
to each other, get input, and return
Inzpiration: to TQ server
LQQK45: i say we do em toghgether now
Inzpiration: ok
Inzpiration: let me grab TQ's site
LQQK45: ive got it
LQQK45: ive got the qs right here
LQQK45: #1
Inzpiration: k, i'll grab it too
Inzpiration: hooold ur horses
Inzpiration: we need to wait for chris
LQQK45: how many comps does your school thweoretically have
with what connection
LQQK45: no we dont
LQQK45: helll be here
Inzpiration: he's part of the team
Inzpiration: ...
LQQK45: doesnt matter, this is purely technical
Inzpiration: well, it depends if u count homeschool or if
you count CMA
LQQK45: homesxchool
LQQK45: thats what you put as your school
Inzpiration: technically - 2
Inzpiration: one for me, and one for zach
LQQK45: how many comps and how many have internet access
Inzpiration: i have the crummy win95 cause i'm too lazy to
transfer all my archives to a new comp
LQQK45: 1 thats available for u without getting yourself in
trouble
Inzpiration: no cheating jordan.....
LQQK45: whats your internet connection?
Inzpiration: 56k
LQQK45: its not cheating, the others is not yours
Inzpiration: it's part of the school
LQQK45: ju7st like my teachers comps are not available to me
LQQK45: ok, fine
LQQK45: student population is 2?
Inzpiration: yes
Inzpiration: lol
Inzpiration: of course, my mom is sort of a student
Inzpiration: she acts like one
LQQK45: great, and our school has 400 with multiple T1
Inzpiration: holy maceral
Inzpiration: k
LQQK45: access to technology is vast
LQQK45: im loaded
LQQK45: but were gonna use chris as the highest
LQQK45: he's got 2 dsls
Inzpiration: noway
Inzpiration: sheesh
LQQK45: how many of your home comps have internet
Inzpiration: ummm, 3
LQQK45: ncvm
Inzpiration: huh?
LQQK45: nvm
LQQK45: Difference;s in technology
Inzpiration: what?!?!?!
Inzpiration: 2 computers
Inzpiration: since it's talking about school
LQQK45: heres the deal...you are fairly isolated with 2
comps of 56k...chris and I have 100 school computers
with dsl, a public library with 10 comps with T1m tons of
neighboors with dsl too
Inzpiration: ook, 2 computers, both have internet
LQQK45: wait, nvm, im gonna be the highest
LQQK45: we need to stress the fact that chris has breen in
canda for a majority of the time
LQQK45: and he had 56k there
Inzpiration: we'll put that under challenges
LQQK45: while i was in camp with T1
LQQK45: i did
Inzpiration: no way
LQQK45: but thats technology too
Inzpiration: camps out here don't even have computers
Inzpiration: you're lucky if u have electricity
LQQK45: give me 2 min and ill have the draft written up
Inzpiration: u can't submit it till the site is up neway
Inzpiration: j2letuknow
LQQK45: i know that very well
LQQK45: were gonna post this on our site too
LQQK45: in the about us section
Inzpiration: that's a good idea
LQQK45: at first i had a 500 word challenges section
LQQK45: and thats what i put on the site
Inzpiration: WOW
Inzpiration: ok
Inzpiration: how big is it now, i didn't check
LQQK45: 250 to the last word
Inzpiration: good4u
Inzpiration: that's always the hardest part
Inzpiration:
Inzpiration: Jordan, we need to be in the science and
mathematics category
LQQK45: no we dont
LQQK45: its not science or math
LQQK45: and that s the biggest category too
Inzpiration: technical science
Inzpiration: computer science
LQQK45: doewsnt count
Inzpiration: ????
Inzpiration: where did u see that?
LQQK45: it involves computer ART
LQQK45: and social sciences with computer ethics
LQQK45: its interdisciplanery
Inzpiration: hmmmm, it's veryonthe edge
Inzpiration: but, i like to think of it as interdisciplinary
anyways
LQQK45: There was a vast difference in the technological
resources available to our team. On one end, we have
Maegan, who has 2 computers with 56k modems, and for a while
was on vacation with no access to computers.
LQQK45: She lives in a fairly isloated area, and the nearest
neighboor or library is not even in reasonable walking
distance. On the other end, we have Jordan, who has a DSL
line in his house, a school with multiple T1, a public
library, and quite a few neighboors with computers availble
for his use if needed. Even when on vacation, he still
had fast computers within reach.
LQQK45: Chris was somewhere in the middle, because although
he has DSL in his house, he was away for a
majority of his time in the team, being in Canada for at the
entire summer.
Inzpiration: umm, u should mention that my library is 30
minutes away
Inzpiration: and that DSL is not even an option out here
LQQK45: 30 driving?
Inzpiration: that's to the nearest grocery store
Inzpiration: the library in monument has 5 computers
Inzpiration: the larg library is 50 minutes
Inzpiration: *large
LQQK45: k, i added it, next up is...
Inzpiration: Entry description
Inzpiration: ur running (sp) right?
LQQK45: sp?
Inzpiration: spell check?
LQQK45: oh, yeah
Inzpiration: k
LQQK45: should we use this one:?
LQQK45: Web Architect is a invaulable resource for the
everyday web programmer, as well as those who are
new to the field. It provides lengthy courses on everything
from Java to the History of the 'Net, including HTML,
Promotion, Hardware and much, much more.It contains reviews
on Hardware and the latest Software, not to
mention interviews with sucessful web designers.... Web
Architect even features a glossary of hundreds of
Internet related terms, and message boards where people can
give their own
LQQK45: on a variety of subjects. It is truly a priceless
resource for anyone interested in the 'Net. Come in and
check it out!
LQQK45: opinions goes inbetween those two
Inzpiration: hoold on
Inzpiration: ~reading~
LQQK45: and im changing the hardware and software to books
and websites
Inzpiration: ok, how about this
Inzpiration: that's good, i think we could merge the two
somehow...
LQQK45: the two what?
LQQK45: ?|
LQQK45: hellloooo?
Inzpiration: Maegan's great-great-great grandfather Albert
Von Schroper designed the Beringer Winery inCalifornia.
represents a new architect. But the media has changed from
drafting board, mortar and bricks, to HTML editor, pixels
and
bandwith. Architects have always had a special role in
defining society - and as the Internet Revolution rages,
provide
invaluable resources for the everyday programmer....
LQQK45: thats sounds like an advertisement
Inzpiration: duh, i copied it
Inzpiration: not
LQQK45: cough *cheesy* cough
Inzpiration: lol
Inzpiration: i like it
Inzpiration: i knew u'd say that
LQQK45: wait, do u have this entire convo on one big im
Inzpiration: hahahaha
LQQK45: then we can put up this convo, itd b interesting
LQQK45: next up is each member
LQQK45: want me to write yours and youll write mine?
Inzpiration: ummm, quick q
Inzpiration: u didn't tell me what happened to chris
Inzpiration: he's phreakin
LQQK45: hes online right now
LQQK45: his comp has 205 viruses/corrupted files
Inzpiration: i know
Inzpiration: he's explaining
Inzpiration: hold on
LQQK45: and phreaking means hacking into a telephone line to
make free long distance calls
Inzpiration: oook
Inzpiration: save it for the glossary....
LQQK45: cmon, were almost done...should i write your
personal thing?
Inzpiration: ummm
Inzpiration: sure
Inzpiration: what will we write for chris?
LQQK45: do u wanna write mine
Inzpiration: how did he participate?
Inzpiration: sure
LQQK45: well both do it
Inzpiration: will do now....
LQQK45: hes the hardware and computer man
Inzpiration: ok
Inzpiration:
LQQK45: ha, yeah right
LQQK45: unless your talking about POD or sumthin
Inzpiration: step step side to side take a ride wit de man
frum de west county upside
Inzpiration: lol
Inzpiration: T-Bone
Inzpiration: :-)
LQQK45: steak?
Inzpiration: lol
LQQK45: how long do u want yours to be
LQQK45: k, im done
LQQK45: HELLOOOOOOO!
Inzpiration: hi
Inzpiration: almost done
Inzpiration: hold on
LQQK45: k, wan tme to send u yours
LQQK45: its a bit sentimental i think
LQQK45: Maegan did a large variety ofsubjects on our site,
ranging from book reviews to software. But we all
agree that her specialty wasCoding and the Internet. She
wrotecourses on everything from HTML to DHTML to
Javascript, and even did a ComputerEthics course. Maegan
came up with many ideas involving the sites structure
anddesign, and also designed the flash intros for each
section. She also enjoyed writing reviews, so she did most
of the ones on our site.
LQQK45: Maegan provided our team withguidance, and made sure
we strictly kept to the rules and regulations
ofThinkquest, carefully citing each source and getting
permission for everythingand everything imaginable.
Thiscarefulness paid off in the end.
LQQK45: Maegan also provided our site withsome culture, as
her lifestyle was quite different than the other
members ofthe team. Chris and Jordan frequentlyenjoyed
hearing Maegan say that she needed to go feed the
horses, or exclaimingthat she was humming to the tune of
some country music band that we’d neverheard of. At
times she also had verydifferent views than other team
members, and our long discussions with her letus get to
know each other better and be more accepting of other
cultures.
Maegan’s contribution
Inzpiration: back
Inzpiration: hold on...
Inzpiration: ~reading~
LQQK45: k
Inzpiration: thanx Jordan....i really appreciate that :-)
Inzpiration: Jordan supplied plenty of "moral support" and
"reality checks", but besides that, he also added major
contributions to the team. He created the general idea and
title of our site, and formed
the basic design, later carrying through with a massive
amount of content, everything from the glossary to
internet and computer basics. Jordan completed tasks that he
labels "manual labor" (he hates that),
including the tedious uploading process of our 200+ page
site, we could have never accomplished our
goals of having a multi-faceted, mixed media resource
production if it weren't for his diligence. I respect
his perseverance and determination throughout the whole
project - and I believe it shows in his work on
the site.
Inzpiration: (BTW i enjoy arguing with u, lol)
LQQK45: Thank you
LQQK45: lol, yes, thats quite fun
LQQK45: we did quite a bit of that when we were discussing
music and the title
Inzpiration: hahaha
LQQK45: do u wnaa do chris's
Inzpiration: speaking of music...did uever go to that blink
concert?
LQQK45: and do u have this whole convo?
LQQK45: yeh, with chris
Inzpiration: let me save it...
LQQK45: ok
Inzpiration: how was it?
LQQK45: blink182's lyrics are getting to be just a bit to
much t for me
LQQK45: but otherwhise it was good
Inzpiration: whatdya mean?
LQQK45: theres a fairly good chance that u may have been
offended by it
Inzpiration: i've read about their concerts
Inzpiration: i went to this awesome concert in june
LQQK45: enough of music for now, weve got work to do
LQQK45: well talk about this when we have time
Inzpiration: oook
LQQK45: whos ognna do chris
Inzpiration: umm, i thinkwe both do
Inzpiration: then stick them together
LQQK45: u know whatm, u do that while i do how we formed the
team, i was a major part of that
Inzpiration: ok, sounds good
LQQK45: done yet?
LQQK45: maegan???
LQQK45: ?>?>?>?>
Inzpiration: ahh
Inzpiration: almost
Inzpiration: it's hard
LQQK45: k
LQQK45: ?
Inzpiration: did he build his comp when he was 13 or 14
LQQK45: 13
LQQK45: The team was created in a veryinteresting way,
considering that the current team has only been
together sincethe end of April, compared to some teams that
could have been together sinceSeptember of 2000,
7 months earlier. Jordan and Maegan had worked together on a
TQ site the year before, andenjoyed the
experience so much that they wanted to do it again. Chris
was found at the end of April/ EarlyMay, after another
potential team member didn’t go through with it.
LQQK45: As a team, we had to coordinate ourschedules, and
plans together. Becauseof the two-hour time
difference between NY and CO, there were many occasionswhere
we were not sure as to which time zone we
were meeting something. Thistook a lot of getting used to,
but we figured it out in the end.
LQQK45: In terms of what courses eachperson would do, we did
not have a problem because the team was
choose wiselyenough that each team member’s computer
knowledge did not overlap too much. Wewere all able to
contribute something that the others did not know. In
general, Chris was in charge of Hardwareand Computers,
Maegan of Coding, and Jordan of the Internet and designing
websites.
Inzpiration: ~reading~
Inzpiration: "after another potential team memeber bailed
out"
LQQK45: k
Inzpiration: ummm, change "not sure as to which time zone we
were meeting something"
Inzpiration: "This took adjustment, but we adapted to the
circumstances"
Inzpiration: "the team was collaberated in a manner, so that
eac team member's computer knowledge was unique and useful"
LQQK45: would u mind doing the other two...i have to do a
bunch of stuff on the site
Inzpiration: Chris...Hardware, Operating Systems....Maegan
of coding and general web design...Jordan of the Internet,
Specific Design Programs.
Inzpiration: Jordan and I nick named chris..."Hardware Man"
- I've never known anyone so passionate the guts of a
computer. He built his own computer when he was 13. He
provided the technical know-how on things
like modems, servers, hardware, and file extensions.
Completing several courses, giving technical
assistance, critiquing our site and providing a basic
skeleton of the flash intro while at the same time
overcomming obstacles of hacker attacks, and coping with a
laptop computer that simply would not
cooperate,
Inzpiration: Chris has "true grit". That's just one side of
Chris, under that intelligent-not-quite-geeky
exterior is a goofy, fun-loving, honest, canoeing,
beaver-loving, French-Canadian, who kept me in stiches
the whole time (when i should've been working). His
enthusiasm amazed me when everything seemed to
fall to pieces. Giving an overall light air to difficult
concepts, Chris' contributions to the site is full of
personality and wit.
Inzpiration: AAAAHHHHH!
Inzpiration: cracker attacks
Inzpiration: not hacker attacks
Inzpiration: shame on me
Inzpiration: brb
Inzpiration: got to do the animals
LQQK45: i need my little excerpt again, the one about me
Inzpiration: k
Inzpiration: did u get ym book reviews?
LQQK45: yeh
Inzpiration: what do u need next?
LQQK45: my excerpt
LQQK45: thething about me
Inzpiration: Jordan supplied plenty of "moral support" and
"reality checks", but besides that, he also added major
contributions to the team. He created the general idea and
title of our site, and formed
the basic design, later carrying through with a massive
amount of content, everything from the glossary to
internet and computer basics. Jordan completed tasks that he
labels "manual labor" (he hates that),
including the tedious uploading process of our 200+ page
site, we could have never accomplished our
goals of having a multi-faceted, mixed media resource
production if it weren't for his diligence. I respect
his perseverance and determination throughout the whole
project - and I believe it shows in his work on
the site.
Inzpiration: now what?
LQQK45: i need your hacker course
Inzpiration: k, will edit, hold on
LQQK45: no, not edit, send
LQQK45: edit later
LQQK45: just in case u dont get around to it or we forget,
migfht as well have some of it up
Auto response from Inzpiration: hi there, i'm working on a
course on hackerz, bbl8er
LQQK45: send me this convo, now!
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