Kumu Interview

Tamarind: Kupuna Kapu said her one of her favorite fruit was tamarind. They would peel it, put sugar and water and the tamarind in a pot and cook it. If they ate too much, it would cut their tongues. When the fruit ripens, it shrinks a little bit and the fruit gets kind of dry inside the pod. Kupuna said it tastes like li hing mui only better. Kupuna thought it was better than chocolate, until she tasted chocolate. If you eat too much of it it will cut your tongue. It was introduced from the Philippines and Kupuna said there is a tree by the Marriott.

Guava: kuava in Hawaiian Kupuna said when she was young she would go through the fields with big buckets and fill them with guavas. She could see them to the guava factory for fifty cents a bucket. Kupuna said fifty cents was enough to take her to the movies 3 times because the movies cost sixteen cents in those days.

Kupuna said: "In my days it was fun growing up. We had an easy life, going swimming, playing baseball, bang-make (cops and robbers..."Bang...you make").

Pepeau: tree fungus Pepeau grows in the forest, on hau trees. Kupuna used to sell the pepeau. "You go over the trees, over the stumps, you slide, you fall.." School cafeterias would put the pepeau into nishime.

Other mountain fruits: java plum, ohia ai (mountain apple)

Kupuna said there are very few native fruits here in Hawaii The most useful is the niu (coconut) which grows mostly in dry areas, coastal land

Most Hawaiian plants had more than one use. They used them to eat, for medicine, for dyes, plaiting, weaving. The shells were used for spoons and ladles; the fibrous parts for plaiting and weaving; the trunks for canoes and drums.

Poisonous plants: Castor bean: big leaves, green pods with soft thorns Kupuna used them to play store The beans are poisonous Oleander: pretty flowers but poisonous Plumeria Crown Flower

Tools: For the lo'i kalo they had limited tools...for kalo mostly (here Kupuna made a motion with her arms like a strong man) "plenty muscle" They had no power machinery like lawn mowers and power saws. They used hoes, sickle, cane knives, machetes [Kupuna mentioned there is a good photograph of people working in a lo'i kalo on the wall of the People's Cafe on Oahu]